Category: General Interest

Submitted By: dixiedarrow@icloud.com – Click to email about this post

I recently posted a small article reporting on Measure 110 (passed in 2020) the drug bill and its replacement HB 4002, which starts Sept 1. I said it was a better bill. It is not! At this time no one goes to jail for possessing illegal drugs. They go right back on the street.
Recently in the primary election, fed up Democrats voted out the incumbent DA in the metro area who refused to prosecute criminals, instead – putting them back on the street. But now Democratic legislators are refusing to lock up those for possessing illegal drugs as per HB 4002 – instead putting them back on the street. They do not get treatment.
There is a rumor that monies from measure 110 for treatment instead went to buy new cars and homes for unknown persons – yep a rumor – No monies went for treatment facilities. This is now 2024!! Where is the money allocated for measure 110???? I would like to know.
New money was allocated for this new bill. Where is that going? where are the treatment facilities? How many years do we have to wait?
Because of the judge problem which I have been writing about – no one is going to look into this. Nope!

No treatment – but now….a deflection center!!
The following article comes from the Portland Tribune:
In a Wednesday press conference, Multnomah County Chair Jessica Vega Pederson and other county leaders addressed plans for a deflection center that continues to incur criticism from the public and fellow commissioners.
The chair’s deflection program will give those caught with hard drugs the choice between serving jail time or receiving treatment for a substance use disorder when House Bill 4002 goes into effect Sept. 1—once again “We must offer people suffering from addiction alternatives to incarceration, or we will be right back where we started,”. “Vega Pederson said. Treatment is the best route to recovery. People’s lives are depending on opening more treatment options, and we are moving swiftly to do so.”
(my comment – How swift is a few years?) However, Multnomah County’s new program could also allow drug users to avoid arrest and possibly walk away without mandated treatment. This outcome is possible for people who get dropped off at the deflection center and go through a screening and assessment with a peer counselor, but are not required to follow a plan for drug treatment.
(And they can go to a deflection center many times – there’s no limit – so they are back on the street! over and over again.
Remember the “hot line” for persons arrested caught with more than allowable amounts of hard drugs under measure 110? The state health authority hired Health Resources in Action, a Boston-based nonprofit focused on public health, for up to $2.7 million to operate the moribund helpline. This was set up for measure 110 in an effort to connect people to substance abuse screening and treatment referral. But there is still no treatment available!!!!!!
Oregon’s Measure 110 drug treatment hotline has served only 577, gets new operator. Updated: Dec. 14, 2023.This is still ongoing although there is no treatment available. (wow – look what happens when you put Democrats in charge of the purse- my comment – wasted wasted money)
My conclusion is Democratic legislators want to see criminals back in the street. What other conclusion can you come to?
In the coming November election – there will be two tax measures to vote on. One will be a tax on your property for public safety. So Oregon Democratic legislators create crime in the street and then tax you for it.
That is what it looks like to me.

Submitted By: diwax54@gmail.com – Click to email about this post

Event for Harris

Submitted By: barbaraandchuck@nehalemtel.net – Click to email about this post

Tired of stories that focus on all the bad things that are happening in the world?

Here’s on from: www.goodnewsnetwork.org/saddled-with-backpacks-of-seeds-local-pooches-enlisted-to-help-rewild-urban-nature-reserve/

Picture credit-Railway-Land-Wildlife-Trust-Lewes

Inspired by an innovative Chilean forest restoration effort, the English town of Lewes is enlisting the help of dog walkers to rewild a local nature reserve.

Heavily degraded by foot traffic, the project co-ops dogs’ tendency to run about in the woods to spread wildflower seed from saddlebags strapped to a harness around the dog’s abdomen.

The idea mimics the function that wolves once played in that part of England, roaming over vast distances getting grass and flower seeds stuck in their coat, only to fall off and germinate somewhere else.

This helter-skelter seed-spreading is actually how many plants evolved to reproduce, and it’s key to maintaining a biodiverse and native ecosystem.

“We’re really interested in rewilding processes, but they often involve reintroducing big herbivores like bison or wild horses,” said manager Dylan Walker from the Railway Land Wildlife Trust who organized the project back in 2019.

“In a smaller urban nature reserve it’s really hard to do those things. So, to replicate the effect that those animals have on the ecosystem we aimed to utilize the vast number of dog walkers that are visiting the nature reserve daily.”

The saddlebags are filled with a variety of perennial plant seeds mixed together with sand. This allows the seed to be spread for longer across larger distances, while also providing a helpful tracking sign to inform the Trust’s employees where dogs are walking.

“I signed up because it sounded like such a good fit. I was asked to place a harness on my chocolate cocker spaniel called Bertie and he ran around spreading seeds like wolves used to do many years ago,” Cressida Murray, a dog walker who regularly uses the nature reserve, told The Guardian.

Wolves were persecuted to extinction in England as early as the reign of Henry VII, who reigned during the latter third of the 15th century.

“A community-based project like this not only helps engage and teach people about the ecological impacts of wildlife but also allows us to make our wildlife and environments richer in the process,” said Walker.

Submitted By: barbaraandchuck@nehalemtel.net – Click to email about this post

Tired of stories that focus on all the bad things that are happening in the world?

Here’s on from: www.goodnewsnetwork.org/saddled-with-backpacks-of-seeds-local-pooches-enlisted-to-help-rewild-urban-nature-reserve/

Picture credit-Railway-Land-Wildlife-Trust-Lewes

Inspired by an innovative Chilean forest restoration effort, the English town of Lewes is enlisting the help of dog walkers to rewild a local nature reserve.

Heavily degraded by foot traffic, the project co-ops dogs’ tendency to run about in the woods to spread wildflower seed from saddlebags strapped to a harness around the dog’s abdomen.

The idea mimics the function that wolves once played in that part of England, roaming over vast distances getting grass and flower seeds stuck in their coat, only to fall off and germinate somewhere else.

This helter-skelter seed-spreading is actually how many plants evolved to reproduce, and it’s key to maintaining a biodiverse and native ecosystem.

“We’re really interested in rewilding processes, but they often involve reintroducing big herbivores like bison or wild horses,” said manager Dylan Walker from the Railway Land Wildlife Trust who organized the project back in 2019.

“In a smaller urban nature reserve it’s really hard to do those things. So, to replicate the effect that those animals have on the ecosystem we aimed to utilize the vast number of dog walkers that are visiting the nature reserve daily.”

The saddlebags are filled with a variety of perennial plant seeds mixed together with sand. This allows the seed to be spread for longer across larger distances, while also providing a helpful tracking sign to inform the Trust’s employees where dogs are walking.

“I signed up because it sounded like such a good fit. I was asked to place a harness on my chocolate cocker spaniel called Bertie and he ran around spreading seeds like wolves used to do many years ago,” Cressida Murray, a dog walker who regularly uses the nature reserve, told The Guardian.

Wolves were persecuted to extinction in England as early as the reign of Henry VII, who reigned during the latter third of the 15th century.

“A community-based project like this not only helps engage and teach people about the ecological impacts of wildlife but also allows us to make our wildlife and environments richer in the process,” said Walker.

Submitted By: wombats_mottos07@icloud.com – Click to email about this post

Have you heard of A Course in Miracles? Been curious about it?

Here’s a link to a free copy, just pay for shipping ($8): theborderlandfoundation.com/book-order-form/

The Course is a psychological & spiritual tool for mind training and inner peace. Through its curriculum of 31 chapters, 365 lessons and a teachers manual, it helps us experientially to shift from the ego’s thought system to Holy Spirit’s and from fear to Love.

– It teaches us about psychology, philosophy, metaphysics, forgiveness, miracles, inner guidance and the power of decision making.
– It teaches us how to pray, ask, listen and trust so that we can heal and be healed.
– It teaches us about relationships and emphasizes the importance of transforming our special relationships into holy ones.
– It helps us to train and change our mind, so we can do our special function together and offer miracles to change the world.

“You are entitled to miracles because of what you are. You will receive miracles because of what God is. And you will offer miracles because you are one with God. Again, how simple is salvation!” (ACIM, W-77.1:1-4)

Submitted By: ben.killen.rosenberg@gmail.com – Click to email about this post

Thank You, BBQ and BBQ Readers!

Posting on behalf of loretta.kim.rosenberg@gmail.com

Years ago, a little girl I took care of after the death of her mom said something that changed how I think about hard times and bad trouble.

If the bad thing hadn’t happened, then all the good things that came after wouldn’t have either. Because it’s all connected. The bad stuff you live through and the good stuff, too.

Would you be the same person if the tragedies hadn’t happened?

If I look at my life through the rearview, I can see that I’m here now because of a series of not so wonderful events. There’s no teasing them apart.

If I hadn’t met Ben, I wouldn’t have the life I have now.

If my ex hadn’t hit me all the time, I wouldn’t have left him and met Ben.

If I hadn’t run away when I was 14, I wouldn’t have lived the life I did—the good and bad, the sweet and sour. It’s not one or the other—it’s always both.

The past we live through is all compost and poop, but without that there are no flowers.

Today I’m writing to say a big thank you to BBQ for being a forum that allows people to say their piece AND get rid of old couches, advertise local events, and sell those dishes you never really liked.

Posting on BBQ and hearing from so many people in the villages about what I’ve written has been a gift—whether you’ve liked what I’ve written or not. Some of you have been in both camps at different times. To everyone who has reached out to encourage, discourage, agree or disagree with me, I want to say thank you.

It’s been years since I published, but today a short essay I wrote is out in the world and I believe it’s because of BBQ. Posting taught me how to write again.

Yes, it gets a little hot and squirrely sometimes, but Chuck and Barbara have created a space to share our experiences, beliefs and opinions plus get rid of that old futon.

Here’s my essay!

oregonhumanities.org/rll/beyond-the-margins/sleepless-nights/

Kim Rosenberg
loretta.kim.rosenberg@gmail.com

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Hello everyone, I’m seeking someone local that has the expertise on fixing older clocks. It used to chime & tick, now our home is silent 🙁
I miss its company!
Anyone know where it can be fixed? Much obliged

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Moles were tearing up my lawn and flower beds. I purchased multiple products but none of them worked and the problem was getting worse. Jason at Thompson Trapping LLC came twice and was able to completely get rid of the moles and they have not returned. I am posting because I am so grateful to have this problem solved. He responds best to texts at 1-805-503-3188.

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If your windows need washing inside and out, I highly recommend ScottErickson, 503-522-5617. Facelift services is his company, he provides services locally. It is the best window washing service I’ve used in 12 years here at the coast. I’m posting because I am so happy to have the job done right.

Submitted By: bill.brayman@icloud.com – Click to email about this post

Several people have complained that an outspoken Manzanita citizen has cost the city a lot of money for legal fees. One person stated that the legal bills amounted to 15 thousand dollars.

“We can now put a beginning price to one citizen’s ego. It’s unfortunate that we as Manzanita residents have to pay the price …”

But what they don’t explain is the reason for challenging the city. The reason is that the outspoken person is questioning the city’s water billing and budgeting practices. He wants the city to lower residential water bills. He is on the side of the Manzanita water customer.

One issue the citizen raises is the contention that the city gains a couple hundred thousand dollars from the water system fund. Another issue the citizen has raised is that the city changed to monthly water billing in order to increase revenue from residential water bills.

So, even though the city may have to pay 15 thousand in legal bills, the flip side of that argument is that the city may stand to gain 20 times that, perhaps nearly a quarter million dollars from the water fund, at the cost of residents having to pay more on their water bills.

We Manzanita water customers may not have all the facts. But a case can be made that the city can do better about lowering our water bills. So, it is not clear at all that the issue is “one citizen’s ego”. And promoting such a one-sided argument does a disservice to Manzanita water customers.

Manzanita city seems to be run pretty well, even excellent perhaps. But there are always ways to improve things. That should be our goal.

Submitted By: mkuestner10@gmail.com – Click to email about this post

Thanks Kim for taking so much time to research and publish information and various links where we can all access the facts for ourselves. I appreciate your tenacity and attention to detail. The results of your efforts paint a painful financial picture for Manzanita. We can now put a beginning price to one citizen’s ego. It’s unfortunate that we as Manzanita residents have to pay the price in U.S. dollars. Your article acts as a clarion call to not further enable his reckless and senseless attacks. Our city government and volunteers deserve better. We all deserve better.

Submitted By: dixiegainer@gmail.com – Click to email about this post

By Taxpayers Association of Oregon & Foundation,
We know there is a lot of negativity and bad news in Oregon …
… so we aimed to try focus on the positive.
We asked Taxpayers Association of Oregon supporters which elected officials are doing a great job.
There were 422 responses highlighting 40 elected officials, and we highlighted the top seven and their score based upon being in the top seven.
U.S. Congressman Cliff Bentz came in at #1 with a 28% share. Congressman Bentz is known for being very involved in protecting the rights of farmers and ranchers in rural Oregon at a time when Oregon farmland is shrinking and many federal regulations are harming agriculture. Respondents feel that Congressman Cliff Bentz is a helpful, effective and responsive defining voice for rural Oregon. Respondents noted his support for Oregon veterans.
In fact, within minutes of this article posting, someone commented on Facebook, “Cliff Bentz had been really helpful to me when dealing with the DOE. Had a problem with them for years, he solved it in a couple months. Very responsive… Always dead on in the issues that matter to me.“
U.S. Congresswoman Lori Chavez-DeRemer came in at #2 with a 23% share. Chavez-DeRemer was noted by respondents for her advocacy against the problems with tolling Interstate-5 and Interstate-205 as projects were leaving citizens without a proper chance to be heard or a public vote.
Oregon State Senator Dennis Linchicum came in at #3 with a 17% share. Respondents noted Linthicum work to help protect the rights of parents and the rights of charter schools, at a time when public school enrollment is declining and vulnerable parents are being denied choices to choose better options.
Oregon State Senator Brian Boquist came in at #4 with a 10% share. Respondents noted Boquist’s support for both veterans and current military service members.
Oregon State Senator Tim Knopp came in at #5 with a 9% share. Respondents noted Knopp’s work to kill the carbon tax which would have increased gas tax prices by as much as 72-cents and for Knopp’s work to protect the people’s Kicker Income Tax Refund which has successfully been working as intended since Knoppp helped enshrine the law into the Constitution a few decades ago.
Oregon State Representative Kevin Mannix was the only State Representative to break into the top 7 with a #6 rank and a 7% share. Respondents appreciated Representative’s Mannix work on behalf of crime victims.
Oregon State Senator David Brock Smith came in at #7 with a 6%. Respondents appreciated State Senator David Brock Smith’s work to roll back Measure 100 failed drug experiment and his advocacy for sane timber policies.
Oregon is going through a difficult period and it is important to highlight those who are effective and making a connection with the public.

Submitted By: barbaraandchuck@nehalemtel.net – Click to email about this post

From Senator Jeff Merkley
7/22/24

Yesterday, President Biden decided to step aside from the 2024 presidential campaign.
Let’s all give a wholehearted thank you to President Biden for everything he’s achieved so far. No president in my lifetime has done more than Joe Biden.
Under his leadership, we’ve had historic investments in American manufacturing, renewable energy, and infrastructure, strengthened our security, and repaired relationships around the world.
Throughout decades of public service, President Biden has led with humility and compassion, with a laser focus on making life better for ordinary Americans. I am grateful to have worked with him to serve the people and stand up to the powerful, and I respect his decision that positions us to protect the programs he’s championed.
This election is between democracy and autocracy. And we need the strongest Democratic candidate to take on and beat Donald Trump and his MAGA agenda. That’s why I proudly endorse Vice President Kamala Harris for president.
Kamala Harris shares my mission of taking on the powerful to deliver for the people. She will fight for reproductive rights, American jobs, and security abroad. She will champion housing, education, healthcare, and equal rights.

From Jim Hightower
On Joe, Kamala, and the Coming Fight
JUL 23

My instant feeling upon hearing that President Biden was stepping down was not political anxiety (aw jeez, another earthquake!), and certainly not any joy in seeing Joe deposed—but pure relief. Suddenly, the deck was shuffled, and now (not a moment too soon), we have a good hand, allowing us to focus squarely on Donald’s dangerous dementia, Project 2025, and the assault on America’s democracy by the combined forces of authoritarian elites and Christian nationalist theocrats.
Kamala Harris is our logical political choice to head up job number one: Discombobulate and defeat Trumpism. An accomplished woman, a woman of color, and a child of immigrants, she’s an experienced and forceful former prosecutor with the smarts to nail the convicted criminal opposing her… and us. Sure, her policies are not as progressive as I want them to be, but neither were Biden’s, and her views are something we can continue to work on. If Trump wins in November, we won’t have even a slight chance to shape the future of an America that stands for, and with, everyone.
While the urgent need in the next 104 (!) days is to focus on the November election, I can’t stress enough that we are in this for the long haul. Campaigns end, movements don’t. We must continue to invest in the local, grassroots organizing that actually bends that long arc of justice, building the capacity to have policies and people that represent the real values of America: fairness, equity and opportunity for all.

www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-policy-record-legacy_n_669986b2e4b086df0a294ab3
How History Might Remember Joe Biden’s Presidency
By Jonathan Cohn

Submitted By: ben.killen.rosenberg@gmail.com – Click to email about this post

Manzanita’s Legal Bills

Posting on behalf of Kim Rosenberg
loretta.kim.rosenberg@gmail.com

I don’t usually use private citizen’s names in what I write unless the person is identified in public documents or identifies themselves as an expert in the community because of their former professional role.
Randy Kugler was the City Manager in Manzanita from 1988-1996 and in Philomath, Oregon from 1996 until he retired in 2014.
Mr. Kugler filed a referendum about monthly versus quarterly water billing, which will be on the ballot in November. Of the four initiatives he has filed, none meets all the criteria to go on the ballot, but he can resubmit any of the ones that were denied or submit new ones.
Each initiative requires legal time and staff time every time it is submitted. We pay for both. This month’s bill from Miller Nash is about $11,000.
In addition to legal fees for the initiatives, Randy Kugler, Will Stone and Laura Swanson, the editor of the Pioneer, are now suing the City of Manzanita to release the results of the investigation into the employee complaint against the former mayor.
There was a total of four requests to release those results and the Tillamook County DA denied all four.
I made a public records request to see if there were other legal costs associated with requests Mr. Kugler has made in the past two years. Most requests don’t necessitate the City Lawyer’s time, but from July of 2022 to June 28, 2024, the City has paid $15,112.50 in legal fees associated with Mr. Kugler’s requests. That doesn’t count staff time just legal fees.
In his July 10 email included in the July Council Meeting Packet, Mr. Kugler wrote, “One of the outcomes of my social media posts has been citizens taking opportunities to talk to me and sending me their comments and email addresses requesting to be kept informed of City activities.”
There are several ways a citizen can learn about the City’s activities from firsthand sources like attending meetings, asking questions of City Staff and Council, reading documents on the City’s website, and doing research to learn more about how local Oregon government works on any of a number of websites. You can do your own homework and form your own opinions. I’ve included links to the source material for this post.
After reading his post, some citizens who own homes and vote here asked to be added to Mr. Kugler’s email update listserv but weren’t.
Links to sources used:
Water billing post: www.northcoastbbq.com/?s=kim+rosenberg+splish+splash
July Council Packet (scroll past agenda to page 12 for Miller Nash legal fees and pages 32-35 for emails): ci.manzanita.or.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/July-10-Regular-Packet.pdf
July Council Meeting (discussion of bills and lawsuit in first part of the meeting):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ_beFRy1F8
Lawsuit document (cut and paste into your browser): drive.google.com/file/d/1UU1s_gk_fw5oyM05fK9Y-S0QXohcdGVa/view
loretta.kim.rosenberg@gmail.com

Submitted By: tevisdiii@gmail.com – Click to email about this post

CHRIS HEDGES’ PERSPECTIVE

www.chrislhedges.com/about

“Joe Biden was discarded by the same billionaire class he assiduously served throughout his political career. Barely able to stumble his way through the words on a TelePrompter and not always cognizant of what is happening around him, his billionaire supporters pulled the plug. He was their creature – he has been in federal office for 47 years – from start to finish. He was used as a foil to defeat Bernie Sanders in the 2020 primaries and was anointed as the candidate in 2024 in a Soviet-style primary campaign. The billionaire class will now anoint someone else. Democratic Party voters are stage props in this political farce. Donald Trump, unlike Kamala Harris or any other apparatchik the billionaire class selects as a presidential candidate, has a genuine and committed base, however fascistic.

In Hitler and the Germans , the political philosopher Eric Vogelin dismisses the idea that Hitler — gifted in oratory and political opportunism but poorly educated and vulgar — mesmerized and seduced the German people. The Germans, he writes, supported Hitler and the “grotesque, marginal figures” surrounding him because he embodied the pathologies of a diseased society, one beset by economic collapse and hopelessness. Voegelin defines stupidity as a “loss of reality.” The loss of reality means a “stupid” person cannot “rightly orient his action in the world, in which he lives.” The demagogue, who is always an idiote , is not a freak or social mutation. The demagogue expresses the society’s zeitgeist. Biden and the Democratic Party are responsible for this zeitgeist.

They orchestrated the deindustrialization of the United States, ensuring that 30 million workers lost their jobs in mass layoffs. As I write in America, The Farewell Tour, this assault on the working class created a crisis that forced the ruling elites to devise a new political paradigm. Trumpeted by a compliant media, this paradigm shifted its focus from the common good to race, crime and law and order. Biden was at the epicenter of this paradigm shift. Those undergoing profound economic and political change were told that their suffering stemmed not from rampant militarism and corporate greed but from a threat to national integrity. The old consensus that buttressed New Deal programs and the welfare state was attacked as enabling criminal Black youth, “welfare queens” and other alleged social parasites. This opened the door to a faux populism, begun by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, which supposedly championed family values, traditional morality, individual autonomy, law and order, the Christian faith and the return to a mythical past, at least for white Americans. The Democratic Party, especially under Bill Clinton and Biden, became largely indistinguishable from the establishment Republican Party to which it is now allied.

The Democratic Party refuses to accept its responsibility for the capture of democratic institutions by a rapacious oligarchy, the grotesque social inequality, the cruelty of predatory corporations and an unchecked militarism. The Democrats will anoint another amoral politician, probably Harris, to use as a mask for outsized corporate greed, the folly of endless war, the facilitation of genocide and the assault on our most basic civil liberties. The Democrats, tools of Wall Street, gave us Trump, and the 74 million people who voted for him in 2020. They look set to give us Trump again. God help us.”

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Submitted By: Jeffrey.sonshine@gmail.com – Click to email about this post

I agree with some posts about avoiding vitriolic angry political posts. However, There have been some posts here that I’ve considered newsworthy, containing information about local goings on that i don’t otherwise have access to. I wish we had a regular independent newspaper.

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Submitted By: tevisdiii@gmail.com – Click to email about this post

Thank you Chuck and Barbara for continuing your valuable work to provide our community with the BBQ, which has now grown into what Chuck imagined it could be; a village green where anyone is free to share, announce, advocate, persuade, dissuade, advise, report on and opine about local and global events. This venue for expression is unique and anyone who visits it regularly can take the pulse of our tri-city community and find out “what’s going on”.
Regarding discord from “political” discourse, I would say that almost anything can be considered political. It is just a word basket we throw ideas and opinions into w’ed rather not discuss for fear of exposure to new ideas, vested interests and egos; heated emotions. Policy. That’s what politics is. Shared ideas and information result in policies whether in the family, the city or the nation. Once they are “written”, policies can take on a life of their own and history has shown it’s worth everyone’s time to hammer them out, as in, beat it from one side, flip it over and beat it some more. The idea is to explore options, gather information and try on opposing perspectives.

On that note, I will throw out an opinion, my own, and it is definitely political.
It has got to be obvious that whoever, whatever one considers the Democratic Party Controllers to be, they have gambled and already lost with the present administration. Not a single poll will show President Biden wining against Trump in November. And, I don’t think anyone on their bench will do any better. That boat is on the rocks so in my opinion, anyone who would prefer Trump NOT become our next president, consider the logic and wisdom of this really being as a two way race between Trump and Bobby Kennedy. A 20,000+ person pool gave Kennedy the edge, if it were between the two. Like Bobby Dylan says, ” You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows”.

This is a worthwhile essay about words, public dialog and shaping views, thus policy. It’s not that long.

www.sott.net/article/493268-The-Contronymal-Circus-Caged-in-Oligarchic-Contradictions

Because of the ubiquitous cameras and speed of sharing information, visual, audio, written…all of it, we really don’t have to wait for the “news” broadcast, ( with all that darn sliding, shifting graphics in the background as an added distraction),
to find out what really happens. The many ‘public squares’, not unlike our own BBQ, will slice and dice an event so fast, winnowing out the chaff from the facts, we don’t have to wait for the “Official Report.
The compilation presented below is a case in point.

peakprosperity.com/audio-analysis-is-100-clear-trump-crowd-were-shot-at-by-two-separate-people/

Thanks again Chuck and Barb.

Tevis Dooley

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Submitted By: pangaeagaia@gmail.com – Click to email about this post

I agree with Kathie Raisler.
BBQ has always had a gentle soul. And although it has raised its voice at times, it has been kind, most of the time.
Take your opinions to the polls, not to BBQ. There is enough hate and consternation on TV and at the table next to you at the restaurant. Don’t spread it to our little community.
Most people know what they support and who, and your SCREAMING only strengthens that support, not changing it one iota.
Thank you, BBQ, for always being there for everyone, even the crazies. But please keep hate out of our community.
Judith Mills

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What Cannot Be Bought or Sold

In time we come to know, we understand

there is no saving grace in lies and misleading.

Deep and real differences may hold our families;

But there is no saving grace in lies and using

what misleads. Across canyons of time and space,

listening to the voices of trusted elders and

honored friends, “Through love alone will hate be healed.”

Be healed and know we have awakened before,

left behind our ignorance, the delusions of our greed,

hatred, and fear. Slowly, we are abandoning the belief

that a man or woman can own another, assume

or create a relation that does not recognize the

inherent rights and dignity of another. At work

as in marriage, community, and state relations

this entitlement is now a birthright, an achievement

of what is best in all of us. We are awakening, slowly

reaching the understanding that war is not a sustainable

choice. The war in Vietnam, the war in Iraq, wherever

we may look, we are coming to know that war profits

a small minority of citizens. We have heard all their lies,

the reasons why our sons and daughters must continue to die,

why those of us who have the most merit further incentives

to accumulate even more. There is no saving grace in being

misled. We are also awakening to the fragile gift of democracy,

how your voice and vote is equal to all others. Will it ever be

easy to recognize and accept how we have been used?

Each of us knows the answer to this common experience.

But as the typhoons come and the tornados grow stronger, as

species extinction accelerates, and our divorce rates incline,

as our coastal cities submerge and our elders die of unrelenting
heat, we can awaken, recognize how we have been used.

What comes to mind when I hear their notion that we should

deport millions of our brothers and sisters seeking as we have

sought a better life, or listen to their war cry, drill baby drill,

what comes to mind is, “They just let you do it.”

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Submitted By: runnawaytrain1@gmx.com – Click to email about this post

This morning’s headlines on Drudge. (Below)

I think it VERY likely we will VERY soon wake up to a total grid down scenario. This might be due to a hack, a mistake, because of the war Democrats are trying to start, or an intentional grid-collapse by the DEMOCRAT WHO JUST TRIED TO MURDER TRUMP. This new brand of murderous Democrat will do anything to get their war with Russia.

In a grid-down scenario, most will die within 30 days.

Clean water will be an issue. So in addition to having ON-HAND EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO LIVE FOR 30 DAYS, also consider taking Kim Miller’s clean-water/emergency scenario WASH class at Nehelam Bay Fire Rescue?

Next classes:

9/14
10/26
11/23

Here are todays headlines on Drudge. If this doesn’t get you prepping, don’t come knocking on my door:

Tech Outage Hits Banks, Airlines, Firms Worldwide… Developing…
MICROSOFT CRASH WREAKS HAVOC…
Most serious IT faliure ever seen… Plunged into dark ages…
Heath care providers report problems with patient services…
Huge hospital group forced to cancel surgeries…
CROWDSTRIKE says not cyberattack; Fix deployed…
‘Could take weeks’ to repair…

Worth noting that Bill Gates’ (reduce population NOW!) Microsoft is the progenitor of this deadly chaos, which will see many die. And this outage is minor.

I have stated my opinion about this on this site, and I will state again that I believe it is quite foolish to remain unprepared for a grid-fail scenario. If you keep 30 days worth of stuff in your garage, clean water, food, medicine, you will have a great chance of making it 30 days with no cash-registers, no gasoline for you car, no electricity, etc.

Andy

Submitted By: pattyrinehart@nehalemtel.net – Click to email about this post

Starting tomorrow, Thursday, Friends of North County Recreation District (NCRD) will be selling flowers at the Little Apple Grocery Store in Manzanita. The flowers are picked fresh each morning and taken to the store about 10 AM. Tomorrow’s flowers are being done by Jessie and Shirley, representatives of 1st Security Bank. As long as we have flowers and arrangers, we will have fresh flowers for you at that location 7 days a week. We might miss a few days due to lack of flowers.

Over the years, Friends of NCRD has been able to provide $14,000 for scholarships-about half of which go to the Youth Department at NCRD. Studies have shown kids who attend preschool or after school programs are ahead of the game in academics and social skills. Friends want to do the best we can with our younger generations as they will be taking care of us someday. By supporting our flower sales, we are supporting our kids, who in turn will be supporting us. Thanks!