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1. The post states: “All see the value of monthly billing to prevent water loss by identifying leaks and faulty meters sooner than later”
At a city coffee session it was stated that it takes only a couple hours, maybe half a day, to read all water meters with Manzanita’s current method of reading water meters. So, frequent meter reading is no big deal.
The current water billing software is limited because it will only trigger a meter reading during the billing process. That is a software limitation that should be able to be solved (probably quite easily) so that meters can read often enough, anytime actually, to detect leaks or other conditions. That ability to read meters often should be there regardless of billing requirements.
So, quarterly billing doesn’t have to be a problem because it delays meter readings. But quarterly billing, itself, is appealing because it reduces the water bill for people who go over their base allotment. Plus, It is actually significantly less expensive to the city to bill quarterly. Plus it’s easier for the custom to write 4 checks per year instead of 12 checks per year.
2. The other item mentioned that i will comment on is the use of base allotments as part of the billing process.
Base allotments turns out to be quite a ridiculous hold over (in my not so humble opinion), a legacy method of billing. It’s complicated to explain why we should get rid of the base allotment method of billing, but i’ll outline the idea below. I have communicated with a city official about this, but they haven’t responded.
The stated policy for the water enterprise fund is to establish billing fees that will recover the expenses of maintaining and operating the water system.
In other words, an enterprise fund is not meant to be a profit center, but is meant to bring in enough revenue to recover near and long term expenses. If the city wants to make a profit to help other city expenses, that is perfectly legal, but of course it should be done transparently with stated policy and public budget disclosures.
So the math of budgeting the water system is simple: Revenue = Expenses
(Well, actually forward budgeting is sophisticated and tricky, allocating and projecting expenses and revenue and all that)
With a supply system there are two basic kinds of expenses:
1 Fixed expenses that are more or less constant no matter how much water is supplied.
2. Variable expenses, mostly the cost per gallon of supplying variable amounts of water.
Given that, logically, all customers should be billed a basic monthly subscription fee which represents their share of the fixed expenses, plus an additional fee proportional to how much water they individually consume.
This is the way most services operate – TV, telephone, trash, and so on.
So where does the base allotment of so many free gallons of water come from?
Well it doesn’t figure into anything mathematically, but it does complicate matters any time you want to adjust billing rates. It complicates it much more than is apparent. A base allotment isn’t a fixed expense and it isn’t a variable expense.
For example, the city wants to do a rate study to account for a possible change back to quarterly billing. But, again, it is the legacy “base allotment” complication that requires a new study.
My concern is that instead of a rate study the city should do a cost management study. Once costs are determined, rates are easily determined. So, in my opinion, the city should be focused on cost management. But, psychologically people want to talk about rates, not realizing it is the costs that drive rates. I have seen this behavior in a city meeting video.
From what I can tell, the base allotment method comes from a long ago idea that it encourages water conservation. Supposedly people will try to stay within their allotment so they don’t have to pay extra, and thus they end up conserving water.
Now, the obvious thing to do is to re-examine what we need regarding water conservation. Then if conservation is needed, the intelligent thing to do is have a focused method to achieve conservation.
As it is now with the base allotment, the conservation incentive really only works for those people who are frugal. It doesn’t incentivize well to do users. So, in many ways the base allotment method of incentivizing conservation is unfair and has completely unknown effectiveness. It is an obsolete method. If anything it is the short term rentals that use a very large amount of water. Perhaps they should be targeted for water conservation. But maybe not. The point is to do things thoughtfully and effectively.
It is questionable that we need any conservation program at all. After all most of the year we live in a rain forest. There is no shortage of water. And if unusual circumstances arise, then water conservation methods should be targeted carefully, not just targeted to frugal customers, and should be done in a way that is known to be effective.
So, there isn’t anything wrong with quarterly water billing, and there are improvements to the billing method and the cost management process that are available that would simplify the water billing process and would help reduce the confusions and controversies.
Thanks,
Bill
If you have further questions, you can send an email to the entire Manzanita City Council at:
Posting on behalf of Kim Rosenberg
loretta.kim.rosenberg@gmail.com
With Referendum 29-179 on the ballot for this November’s election, I wanted to understand how other Oregon cities bill for water, so I did a little research.
For 24 years the League of Oregon Cities has compiled Water Rates Surveys from cities in Oregon to understand trends in water and stormwater rates. Most cities in the survey use a drinking water rate structure like Manzanita’s tiered rate structure that includes a base rate with additional charges for water use beyond that amount. It’s not the same thing as a surcharge which is a fee for specific costs or conditions like when you use a debit card at a different bank or ask for cash back at Fred Meyer.
Of the responding cities 90% bill monthly, 10% bill bi-monthly and 0% bill quarterly. While not all cities in Oregon responded to the voluntary survey, that’s a pretty stunning result. So, I decided to look at the City of Philomath, where Randy Kugler, the author of the referendum, was City Manager for 18 years, to see how Philomath does it.
The city of Philomath bills monthly. In Philomath City Council meetings, archived from 1994 and available on their city’s website, Mr. Kugler often spoke about the importance of water conservation and how monthly billing helped save water. In addition, he praised the monthly billing system technology as increasing efficiency for the city at the March 14, 2011, Council Meeting. Mr. Kugler also included ways consumers could improve water conservation at home in the 2011 Philomath Water Study. During that time Philomath Public Works was in the process of installing radio read water meters throughout the city at the behest of Council and the recommendation of the Public Works Committee.
The Philomath Public Works Operations Supervisor reported at the August 13, 2012, Philomath Council Meeting that the last radio read water meters had been installed resulting in huge savings in staffing to read the meters every month.
As City Manager, Mr. Kugler saw the benefit of monthly billing and water conservation for consumers and Philomath. No other cities in Tillamook County bill quarterly. All see the value of monthly billing to prevent water loss by identifying leaks and faulty meters sooner than later while encouraging conservation by consumers.
It just makes sense.
Kim Rosenberg
Philomath City Council Minutes Archive
portal.laserfiche.com/Portal/Browse.aspx?id=59316&repo=r-7906069a
A person of many talents she helped grow the NCRD Theater into its present, impressive condition. Mary did everything from book performers, sew stage backdrops, run sound and lights for performances, design posters, write successful grants for the theater’s needs and perhaps most Herculean of all, she managed a performing arts venue through the worst of COVID.
NCRD boasts a vibrant and popular presence in our community today. Thank you, Mary, for 8 years of work to help make this possible. Earlier this week she quietly and almost under the radar passed the torch to a new NCRD theater director.
If I recall, it was Mary’s success with managing and participating in our local Trashion show that began her journey into theater. Hopefully, we will continue to see her on that stage. I’ve encountered a number of people who were surprised to hear of Mary’s retirement as theater manager since it didn’t seem to be common knowledge. However, she isn’t going far away. She continues to reside in our area so you may bump into her and still have the opportunity to greet her and acknowledge her contributions if you are feeling the desire.
Join a Manzanita City Council member for Coffee and a snack (both provided).
This is an open format chance to sit with others in the community and have a conversation, ask questions, and/or discuss whatever else is on your mind in an informal and friendly setting. These occur once a month and are at the Offshore Grill and Coffee House at 154 Laneda.
We look forward to seeing and hearing from you!
I’m excited to share Denise’s campaign flyer with you! It includes more details about her and her platform as she runs for Mayor of our wonderful town. We’d love for you to take a look and learn more about her vision for Wheeler.
#2. Respect
Respect, shown consistently, is one of the most important things a leader can do. Building a culture of respect helps ease tensions and conflict, fosters trust, and improves effectiveness.
#3. Compassion
Compassion is more than simply showing empathy or even listening and seeking to understand. Compassion requires leaders to act on what they learn.
#4. Vision
Vision means a leader’s aspiration for the future. Motivating others and garnering commitment toward that vision are essential parts of leadership.
#5. Communication
The best leaders can skillfully communicate in a variety of ways, both orally and in writing, and with a wide range of people from different backgrounds, roles, levels, geographic and more.
#6. Learning Agility
Learning agility is the ability to know what to do when you don’t know what to do. All great leaders are really great learners.
#7. Collaboration
Great leaders value and embrace collaboration, working effectively with people of different social identities, locations, roles, and experiences. They span boundaries and learn to work across various types of divides.
#8. Influence
Requiring high levels of emotional intelligence and trust, leaders must be able to influence others to get the work done-they cannot do it alone. Influence is quite different from manipulation, and it needs to be done authentically and transparently.
#9. Integrity
Integrity-being consistent, honest, moral, and trustworthy-is an essential leadership trait especially important for top- level executives who are charting the course and making countless significant decisions.
#10. Courage
Courage enables leaders-and their team members- to take bold actions that move things in the right direction. It’s a key leadership trait because it takes courage and truth-telling, to do what’s right.
#11. Gratitude
Gratitude is the uplifting emotion experienced after receiving something of value. Sincere gratitude makes you a better leader. The best leaders know how to actively show gratitude in the world.
#12. Resilience
Resilience is more than the ability to bounce back from obstacles and setbacks-it’s the ability to respond adaptively to challenges. It also means projecting a positive outlook that will help others maintain the emotional strength they need to commit to a shared vision, and the courage to move forward and overcome setbacks.
So how does your candidate measure up to this list?
The goal of the bbq administration’s presidential vote survey was to share information about why people are choosing their presidential candidate WITHOUT trashing anyone.
If you disagree with a poster, PLEASE DO NOT attack them with an email.
We have already had one poster request their post to be deleted because they were stressed out from emails they received.
PLEASE SHOW SOME RESPECT.
Thank you,
Barbara and Chuck
I wish you would have made it a rule that people could not respond to posts via email. Will you go ahead and please take my post down about Trump.
It’s not worth it. I enjoy this site too much for it to cause me stress.
Heidi
After 10 years of past Councils talking about the need to raise water rates but not acting, the City conducts a rate review and passes a Resolution in July 2023 increasing water rates and cutting in half our base allotment of water from 4,000 gallons per month to 2,000 gallons.
In March 2024 it was discovered that the City Manager failed to have the Council amend the quarterly meter reading and billing requirements of the existing Ordinance to allow for the new monthly meter read and billing schedule. The existing Ordinance only allowed meters to be read at intervals “90 days apart ” and “water service shall be billed on a quarterly basis “.
Passage of an amended City Ordinances in this instance to allow for monthly meter reading and billing is required before the July 2023 Resolution could be implemented.
For approximately 7 months until the Council finally passed the required Ordinance to remedy this oversight, the City without any authority to do so, billed monthly late fees and collected monthly surcharges from customers for using more than their new base allotment. The Mayor and Councilors in taking their oath of office swear to obey City Ordinances but in this instance have failed to acknowledge or take steps to remedy this mistake. Customers are entitled to credits on their water bills for those late fees and surcharges collected during this 7 month time period.
The eventual passage of the amending Ordinance in May 2024 by the Council to allow for monthly billing provided the opportunity for citizens to review and challenge these Council decisions through the Referendum process as guaranteed by the Oregon Constitution.
Citizens by now had experienced 7 months of monthly billings and the associated late charges and surcharges. 115 registered Manzanita voters were offered the opportunity to sign the Referendum petition to allow a vote to be taken on the Council’s decision. 114 signed with 1 declining because of the preference for monthly billing.
A closer review of the initial rate study revealed a flawed analysis of how the City came up with the new 2,000 gallon base water allotment that the City continues to rely upon. City staff admits that they have no way to distinguish monthly household water usage between full time residents and the majority part time homes that are not used for short term rentals in Manzanita that are vacant for weeks or months at a time. Staff simply combined all full and part time households and came up with the winter and summer average usage that they continue to cite for the “general homeowner”.
Additionally, questions as to why the visitors who are driving up demand for water especially during the summer are not paying their share towards the cost of that demand have simply been ignored. Rather than address these factual issues, the City and its Council supporters become indignant when citizens exercised their right to the Referendum process and decry the costs and time to reexamine the initial rate study.
How ironic it is that if only the City Manager had prepared and the Council had approved the necessary Ordinance changes when the rate change Resolution was passed in July 2023, there would not be the outcry and hand wringing by the City and its Council supporters because there would have been no opportunity for citizens to place this Referendum on the ballot. The City’s reluctance to provide citizens the opportunity to vote on major community issues is well established. It now appears that when citizens exercise their rights to have a vote, their motives apparently deserve to be questioned and criticized.
A solution that is in the best interests of the residents of Manzanita is:
1. Restore a reasonable residential household base water allotment of 12,000 gallons per quarter consistent with recognized national studies.
2. Do not increase the base residential water charge to more than $142.68 per quarter which is the current monthly charge of $47.56 times three. A tiered rate for usage in excess of the 12,000 gallon quarterly base is reasonable.
3. Require visitors to pay their share of any additional needed Water Utility Fund revenue for costs for the operation and production of our water through transfers of Transient Lodging Tax revenue to the Water Utility Fund. The City tells us that visitors through TLT taxes are paying to support our water infrastructure then fails to budget a single dollar of those taxes to the Water Utility Fund to back up this claim.
A reasonable request by residents would be to ask the Council to transfer a modest 7 – 10% of the annually collected TLT revenue to the Water Utility Fund as compensation from those visitors who are creating the demand and increased costs for the single most important infrastructure system in our community.
The City wants to present a water study on Wednesday of a typical small Oregon City where most if not all single family residential homes are occupied by full time residents. Not a single mention will be made of the impact of the now year round visitor customers who the City agrees drive up both water demand and costs.
The study conveniently omits any analysis of how TLT funds from visitors could be used to fund infrastructure improvements and keep rates lower for full time residents. Instead the study concludes that there are no other funding options available to the City other than rate increases combined with the continued present unrealistic base water allotment.
Conclusion. The City is content to have the relatively small number of actual full time residential households continue to subsidize visitor water usage and costs.
This Council believes compliance with City Ordinances is an option not a requirement.
Faulty analysis of water usage by full time residents doesn’t need further explanation.
Conservation is good, collecting monthly surcharges from full time residents is even better.
When the City claims that TLT revenue helps pay for water infrastructure, we shouldn’t expect to believe that this Council would really take the necessary steps to make this happen.
A relatively routine City business matter of adopting new water rates has now become a political embarrassment for the Council. The Council can take the opportunity to fix the problem it created and get on with other pressing matters or show us it is just business as usual when it comes to ignoring the interests of residents.
Randy Kugler
Hi everyone on BBQ,
I am responding to BBQ invitation to make a positive statement about: for whom you are going to vote and why you have chosen that candidate.
I am voting for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. Here is why I have made that decision:
In their careers Vice President Kamala Harris and Governor Tim Walz have worked to better the lives of ordinary citizens, the common people–you know, like you and me. Together they are an effective team that will work to build a more hopeful future for each of us. As a senior citizen, my dollar will go farther to buy food and medicine, as well as the expenses of owning or renting a home.
Vice President Kamala Harris has shown herself through her various roles in the California justice system and state and federal government to be a fighter for the people. From her days as a prosecutor in California to her work as Vice President, she has defended the rights of the American people by standing up to predators, scammers, and big corporations. Thank you, Kamala Harris, for standing on principle and not being swayed by big money interests.
As Vice President, Kamala Harris helped deliver economic progress across the country. In Governor Tim Walz she chose a running mate who shares her vision. Together they will work to better the lives of working families. That’s you and me.
Until a couple of weeks before Kamala Harris had picked her Vice Presidential running mate, I had never heard of Tim Walz. Honestly, I don’t know much about politics in other states. Since then I have googled information to learn that he is a lifelong Midwesterner who has delivered for the middle class in his state of Minnesota. As Governor he signed the single-largest investment in public education in state history. He established reproductive freedom as a fundamental right in Minnesota. He cut taxes in every state budget; he lowered the cost of prescription drugs. I urge you to google “Signature Accomplishments of Governor Walz and Lieutenant Governor Kate Flanagan.” As I was, you will be amazed at the broad spectrum of what he accomplished to help families, working people, and seniors have a better life. Like Vice President Kamala Harris, he will never stop fighting for working families.
I want a President and Vice President that will promote the welfare and well-being of the common man, of people like you and me.
Kamala Harris and Tim Walz will get my vote on day 1 of our Oregon voting period.
Lucy Brook
Nehalem resident
Some things I found on the Veeps:
Walz bribed poor Minnesotans to inject their children with new mRNA tech the kiddos surely didn’t need:
Bill Gates explains the process:
rumble.com/vmww7d-bill-gates-in-2015-discusses-vaccinating-children.html
Then Walz created a tattle-tale line for adults:
rumble.com/v59zt0t-minnesota-governor-tim-walzs-pandemic-tattle-tale-hotline-sparks-controvers.html
Then Walz oversaw this:
rumble.com/v3vyvzv-the-fall-of-minneapolis.html
And Vance: Whitney doesn’t like him, and not because he wears eyeliner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGySygy0LWs
But Vance sure looks good in drag, eyeliner and all, don’t he???
www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-yes-photos-show-165100903.html?guccounter=1
Andy
Nehalem Bay
🙂
mRNA info starts at 01:12:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOQdjgdRcfA
Also for medical/science types, Wall Street has big plans for Ozempic, says surgeon whistle-blower:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUH4Co2wE-I
The data is available, so I compared a sample monthly bill for 4000 gallons in the 4 neighboring systems. In Manzanita, the bill would include the base rate and two additional 1000 gallon charges from Tier 1 pricing. In Nehalem, it is one additional charge above base; in Wheeler it is part of the base rate, and in Neakahnie, it is the base rate plus the mandatory debt charge.
The results of the comparison? You might be surprised! Manzanita, the lowest, is $67 (for a resident), Nehalem is $68 (for a resident), Wheeler is $73, and Neahkahie is $126. Feel free to do your own calculations, and also check out: City Water Usage presentation and Manzanita Today June 2024.
Are you planning on voting in the Presidential election? If you know for whom you are going to vote we are interested in understanding why you chose that candidate.
And we wonder if you would be willing to share that info on the BBQ by answering the following question:
What do you like about your candidate?
Those willing to answer that question must follow a couple of rules we, as administrators of the BBQ, created to have their thoughts posted on the BBQ.
Those rules are:
Describe what you like about your candidate—values, priorities, attitude towards issues, etc.
DO NOT respond with ANY language about the other candidate. Post must ONLY be about the candidate of your choice.
Title must be “What I like about (name of candidate)
Must use General Interest category
Must respond before 5pm on Sept 20th
ALL posts that follow these rules will be posted on the BBQ website.
ANY post that does not follow these rules will not be posted.
Thanks,
Barbara and Chuck
BBQ Administrators
posting on behalf of Kim Rosenberg loretta.kim.rosenberg@gmail.com
It seems that some folks have been promised that the water referendum on this November’s ballot will return us to quarterly billing and the old water allotment. This information isn’t true but it’s consistent with the narrative and general mistrust of city government that some folks feel regardless of who’s on council.
First off, the only thing we’ll be voting on is monthly versus quarterly billing. That’s it. We’ll know what the rates will be when the new water study is complete.
In a June 30, 2024, post on the Pioneer’s website the referendum’s author, Randy Kugler, suggests that the base residential charge be capped at $142.68 per quarter reflecting the current monthly rate and that the water allotment per quarter be 12,000 gallons of water irrespective of use. That’s not on the ballot and it’s not what we’re voting on no matter what you’ve heard.
When we switched from quarterly to monthly billing, the base water allotment changed from 4,000 to 2,000 gallons per month. In the post Kugler writes, “The result is large numbers of full time resident households now paying monthly surcharges for exceeding, 2000 gallons.”
The data from the August Council meeting shows that an overwhelming majority of water users—about 75% of us—use 2,000 gallons monthly except during the summer months. A tiered rate schedule was adopted so, if you use more, you pay more. In our house we’ve used about 3,000 gallons of water monthly during the summer. We’re a full time 2 person one puppy family, we garden, we have bird baths and I like to do laundry. So, in our house we’re paying a little more.
But why should a full time resident expect to pay less for water? Does a full time resident get a better deal on electricity? Does a full time resident get a better deal from Recology? Does a full time resident pay less for any utility or service?
We pay for what we use and if we want to pay less, we can choose to use less. We can conserve.
You know who uses a lot of water? Second homes used as short term rentals. They’d be the ones to benefit from a 12,000 gallon water allotment.
In addition to water that guests use while visiting for bathing, dishwashing, cooking and toilet flushing—every time there’s a check out, sheets and towels, bathmats, kitchen towels, sometimes bedspreads and mattress covers are washed. Some vacation houses are booked almost every night in the summer and early fall. That’s a whole lot more water use than what full time folks use, and it makes sense that everyone pays their fair share of what the water actually costs. We all should.
The tiered rate system charges according to use and billing monthly allows consumers to keep track of their use and pay accordingly.
Why would we give such a large water allotment and charge the same rate to folks using less? It doesn’t make sense to me.
If the TLT money is used to pay for a shortfall in water rates, as was suggested in recent posts, the General Fund will be shorted instead. I think you call it robbing Peter to pay Paul.
I plan to tune in and watch the Council Work Session on September 11 when they’ll be discussing the new water study. I hope you do too!
Here’s a link to the water usage information.
ci.manzanita.or.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/WATER-USAGE-OCT23-JULY24-v2.pdf
Kim Rosenberg loretta.kim.rosenberg@gmail.com
It seems that some folks have been promised that the water referendum on this November’s ballot will return us to quarterly billing and the old water allotment. This information isn’t true but it’s consistent with the narrative and general mistrust of city government that some folks feel regardless of who’s on council.
First off, the only thing we’ll be voting on is monthly versus quarterly billing. That’s it. We’ll know what the rates will be when the new water study is complete.
In a June 30, 2024, post on the Pioneer’s website the referendum’s author, Randy Kugler, suggests that the base residential charge be capped at $142.68 per quarter reflecting the current monthly rate and that the water allotment per quarter be 12,000 gallons of water irrespective of use. That’s not on the ballot and it’s not what we’re voting on no matter what you’ve heard.
When we switched from quarterly to monthly billing, the base water allotment changed from 4,000 to 2,000 gallons per month. In the post Kugler writes, “The result is large numbers of full time resident households now paying monthly surcharges for exceeding, 2000 gallons.”
The data from the August Council meeting shows that an overwhelming majority of water users—about 75% of us—use 2,000 gallons monthly except during the summer months. A tiered rate schedule was adopted so, if you use more, you pay more. In our house we’ve used about 3,000 gallons of water monthly during the summer. We’re a full time 2 person one puppy family, we garden, we have bird baths and I like to do laundry. So, in our house we’re paying a little more.
But why should a full time resident expect to pay less for water? Does a full time resident get a better deal on electricity? Does a full time resident get a better deal from Recology? Does a full time resident pay less for any utility or service?
We pay for what we use and if we want to pay less, we can choose to use less. We can conserve.
You know who uses a lot of water? Second homes used as short term rentals. They’d be the ones to benefit from a 12,000 gallon water allotment.
In addition to water that guests use while visiting for bathing, dishwashing, cooking and toilet flushing—every time there’s a check out, sheets and towels, bathmats, kitchen towels, sometimes bedspreads and mattress covers are washed. Some vacation houses are booked almost every night in the summer and early fall. That’s a whole lot more water use than what full time folks use, and it makes sense that everyone pays their fair share of what the water actually costs. We all should. The tiered rate system charges according to use and billing monthly allows consumers to keep track of their use and pay accordingly.
Why would we give such a large water allotment and charge the same rate to folks using less? It doesn’t make sense to me.
If the TLT money is used to pay for a shortfall in water rates, as was suggested in recent posts, the General Fund will be shorted instead. I think you call it robbing Peter to pay Paul.
I plan to tune in and watch the Council Work Session on September 11 when they’ll be discussing the new water study. I hope you do too!
Here’s a link to the water usage information.
ci.manzanita.or.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/WATER-USAGE-OCT23-JULY24-v2.pdf
Kim Rosenberg loretta.kim.rosenberg@gmail.com
It’s nice to read a post that is not a rant!
Barbara
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