Submitted By: fire.jousts0z@icloud.com – Click to email about this post
Regarding the insights about the law for Collector streets being 22′ wide vice the narrow 20′ proposed by the CM, the following could be the only solution to have a 22′ road:
Make the walkway 48″. This gives you a 22 foot wide road.
“Key ODOT rules and requirements
Other relevant factors
* Minimum width: A typical public walkway minimum width is 48 inches, allowing two people to walk side-by-side”
Simple, no?
This would also up the safety factor for pedestrians as vehicles would have extra room that could prevent crashes and incidental injury to pedestrians. Bicycles, as the speed limit is 20MPH and there are traffic smoothing bumps to slow traffic. Perfect for mixing in bikes and keeping the path for pedestrians only.
Hope the Council members can do something for the long-term safety of pedestrians as well as the increasing traffic.
Of course, the State will be fronting $2.7 million of the $3 million cost for this. Manzanita could have had, for a decent dollar amount additional, (and there’s a lot of money in the Manzanita City reserves that could have been used) a retaining wall on the west that would have retained the blacktop from slumping on the west.
And, oh by the way, the downhill “hotel” construction will be starting soon, and that steep slope (over 30 degrees in places) will be close to or part of the construction effort. So now, with a new structure downhill, that west retaining wall will never be built.
But, as I wrote recently, it is too late, and the Council has already congratulated itself (see it on the video) and the CM for the “workarounds”. Well, it was a workaround to diss the $400,000 cost of design of a nationally known engineering company. And so it goes. Classic.
Make the walkway 48″. This gives you a 22 foot wide road.
“Key ODOT rules and requirements
Other relevant factors
* Minimum width: A typical public walkway minimum width is 48 inches, allowing two people to walk side-by-side”
Simple, no?
This would also up the safety factor for pedestrians as vehicles would have extra room that could prevent crashes and incidental injury to pedestrians. Bicycles, as the speed limit is 20MPH and there are traffic smoothing bumps to slow traffic. Perfect for mixing in bikes and keeping the path for pedestrians only.
Hope the Council members can do something for the long-term safety of pedestrians as well as the increasing traffic.
Of course, the State will be fronting $2.7 million of the $3 million cost for this. Manzanita could have had, for a decent dollar amount additional, (and there’s a lot of money in the Manzanita City reserves that could have been used) a retaining wall on the west that would have retained the blacktop from slumping on the west.
And, oh by the way, the downhill “hotel” construction will be starting soon, and that steep slope (over 30 degrees in places) will be close to or part of the construction effort. So now, with a new structure downhill, that west retaining wall will never be built.
But, as I wrote recently, it is too late, and the Council has already congratulated itself (see it on the video) and the CM for the “workarounds”. Well, it was a workaround to diss the $400,000 cost of design of a nationally known engineering company. And so it goes. Classic.